What we’re expecting from Nintendo’s Switch 2 announcement Wednesday
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You know, that feels like something that definitely could have been on the Wii. I didn't play it as consistently as other consoles, but I absolutely turned it on from time to time to check out the weather and news channels, or poke at the virtual console shop. It was all just so pleasant. Wii Sports, too. It was so calm and gentle. Just spinning the globes, looking at Hawaii's weather, letting the tunes and sounds play out. That's a nice calming thought for bedtime.
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Do we know anything confirmed on the internals yet? I imagine it is an nvidia chip again, which likely means some optimized ai cores for dlss upscaling (not a bad thing if done well).
Doubtful for frame generation since that really only helps when you’re above 60 already.
I imagine if they use dlss or something like it as standard then it should be pretty efficient and we will get good battery life out of it.
I do hope they have some surprises though, and this isn’t just Switch Pro. While that’s fine, it is a little boring for Nintendo.
Doubtful for frame generation since that really only helps when you’re above 60 already.
I imagine if they use dlss or something like it as standard then it should be pretty efficient and we will get good battery life out of it.
I do hope they have some surprises though, and this isn’t just Switch Pro. While that’s fine, it is a little boring for Nintendo.
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It’ll be their usual MO. Cheap hardware in a nifty form-factor at a decent price (but the hardware will be cheap enough that they’ll still make a profit on every unit sold), with a killer lineup of exclusive games, plus a couple of gimmicks tacked on to get some extra mileage out of the curiosity factor.
Edit: if I buy one I just hope that I won’t have to get my new joy cons fixed as many times.
Edit: if I buy one I just hope that I won’t have to get my new joy cons fixed as many times.
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Likely: Nintendo will continue with bitter coating on cartridges due to potential choking hazards.
Possible: Nintendo will switch from bitter to sour flavoring.
Implausible: Cartridges will taste like snozzberries.
Possible: Nintendo will switch from bitter to sour flavoring.
Implausible: Cartridges will taste like snozzberries.
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None of the "New Features" listed there seem particularly appealing for my personal gaming needs.
I avoid voice chat like the plague. When I do play games with friends and family, it's in-person, so voice chat would likely be with strangers. And the last thing I want to do when relaxing is listen to random strangers.
Achievements have always seemed like a pointless, tacked-on annoyance: "achievement unlocked, you completed the tutorial", "achievement unlocked, you took a screenshot". Just go away you infernal pop-ups, and let me complete the objectives that are in the actual game.
Meanwhile, Virtual Console makes more sense as a subscriber benefit (as it is now), since we're not really "buying" these games, just playing them on a new platform. If I was to re-buy older games at this point, I'd want them to be interesting remasters (a la Super Mario Allstars or the GBA Mario remakes). Otherwise I have plenty of other ways to scratch the nostalgia itch.
But I guess the Switch doesn't really need new features. It just needs to keep doing what it's been doing, alongside a hardware refresh. Give me hall effect joysticks and a performance bump, and I'll be satisfied.
I avoid voice chat like the plague. When I do play games with friends and family, it's in-person, so voice chat would likely be with strangers. And the last thing I want to do when relaxing is listen to random strangers.
Achievements have always seemed like a pointless, tacked-on annoyance: "achievement unlocked, you completed the tutorial", "achievement unlocked, you took a screenshot". Just go away you infernal pop-ups, and let me complete the objectives that are in the actual game.
Meanwhile, Virtual Console makes more sense as a subscriber benefit (as it is now), since we're not really "buying" these games, just playing them on a new platform. If I was to re-buy older games at this point, I'd want them to be interesting remasters (a la Super Mario Allstars or the GBA Mario remakes). Otherwise I have plenty of other ways to scratch the nostalgia itch.
But I guess the Switch doesn't really need new features. It just needs to keep doing what it's been doing, alongside a hardware refresh. Give me hall effect joysticks and a performance bump, and I'll be satisfied.
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This is both optimistic and also a low bar: I would like some way to see that huge portion of Nintendo games that have been left to rot on older consoles become accessible somehow.
My 3DS/DS'es and Wii were stolen when I moved two years ago, so while I still have my games it's essentially abandonware unless I re-invest in retro hardware.
Re-releasing 3DS/DS games is obviously a challenge due to the dual screen nature of the old hardware so if this new console has a way to solve that such as using the gamepad and TV screen simultaneously (ala WiiU) that could be huge.
But ignoring the dual-screen titles there's just a huge catalog of GC/Wii/WiiU games that are inaccessible. I still have my copy of Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, though I don't have a console to play it on. Which is lucky because the game goes for $200+ right now so it's cheaper to by the hardware than the software!
Still I know the focus for a launch is going to be on new content. So a new 3D Mario would be great. I adored Mario Odyssey in a way that the other 2/2.5D Mario games didn't really capture for me.
*edit: Heyooo no dual screen but they showed Path of Radiance for GameCube!
Not a lot else I was hoping for though.
My 3DS/DS'es and Wii were stolen when I moved two years ago, so while I still have my games it's essentially abandonware unless I re-invest in retro hardware.
Re-releasing 3DS/DS games is obviously a challenge due to the dual screen nature of the old hardware so if this new console has a way to solve that such as using the gamepad and TV screen simultaneously (ala WiiU) that could be huge.
But ignoring the dual-screen titles there's just a huge catalog of GC/Wii/WiiU games that are inaccessible. I still have my copy of Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, though I don't have a console to play it on. Which is lucky because the game goes for $200+ right now so it's cheaper to by the hardware than the software!
Still I know the focus for a launch is going to be on new content. So a new 3D Mario would be great. I adored Mario Odyssey in a way that the other 2/2.5D Mario games didn't really capture for me.
*edit: Heyooo no dual screen but they showed Path of Radiance for GameCube!
Not a lot else I was hoping for though.
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Make it $449 for a bundle with the Wii U versions of Twilight Princess and/or Wind Waker, upgraded for the Switch 2, and it will be an instant buy for me.
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One wild rumor that came up recently: 120Hz screen w/VRR. It sounds both crazy enough to be implausible, but also seems like that stuff has become common enough to maybe be plausible. VRR output for the dock would be particularly welcome as well.
God knows Nintendo is like Apple and their iOS stuff as far as obfuscating tech specs, so even if it does have that who knows if we'll find out about it tomorrow.
(For reference by the time the first Switch came out, the older PS4 and XB1 versions could also be had for $299, or less even!)
God knows Nintendo is like Apple and their iOS stuff as far as obfuscating tech specs, so even if it does have that who knows if we'll find out about it tomorrow.
OLED Switch is (still) currently $349, so yeah I'd say that's the low end of possibility. $100 up from that at $449 feels well within the plausible side, given currency unpredictability and general state of the US with imports. Hell $499 might not even seem that crazy given the cost of ...everything these days.
(For reference by the time the first Switch came out, the older PS4 and XB1 versions could also be had for $299, or less even!)
Are you the Three PS3s guy?
In those previous cases the BC was basically identically performant, cause it was pretty much identical hardware wise but higher clock or whatever simple upgrades along the same generation. In this case it should be much faster, skipping a few generations of ARM and Nvidia hardware, with no real way of getting identical performance as before. Easiest thing to do is just let stuff run and hope stuff doesn't break, kinda like how you can see improvements from overclocked Switches already, hopefully stuff with unlocked frame rates and dynamic resolutions will have decent improvements.
Yeah I miss Streetpass stuff and the other random super simple games they had on there like the sticker crane game and particularly Rusty's Real Deal Baseball. Course it's also the type of stuff I've always thought would work as cheap mobile game time wasters too but they never went that route.
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My suspicion/understanding is they've had plenty of time in that this sequel hardware has been pushed back repeatedly.
There's no world where I believe TOTK wasn't meant to be released on both, the same way BOTW was with WiiU
I'd be shocked if they haven't also been making hardware for a while but perhaps that was less finalised?
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Not gonna lie, just a little disappointed they didn't end up calling it the Swiitch.
Also is this the first time that Nintendo has released a console with a "2" on the end? I think it is?
Also is this the first time that Nintendo has released a console with a "2" on the end? I think it is?
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The big question: will Nintendo need to start considering an update to the US list price mere hours after the announcement due to the “liberation day” import tax announcements due for today?
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Release Date:
Likely: Hype starts in June 2025. Hype reaches furious peak around holiday season! January 2026: Nintendo releases quasi-apologetic statement that demand far exceeded expectations and ramps up production. Scalpers continue to get rich. Despite promises that production would increase, supply remains elusive, with diehard fans taking vacation time to press Add-to-Cart button all day with 43 browser tabs open. Switches widely available for Christmas 2026. Nintendo winks at Nvidia, slyly saying to Nvidia, "This is how it's done, chump! Watch and learn"
(Nvidia takes notes in order to perfect the release of their next generation cards.)
Likely: Hype starts in June 2025. Hype reaches furious peak around holiday season! January 2026: Nintendo releases quasi-apologetic statement that demand far exceeded expectations and ramps up production. Scalpers continue to get rich. Despite promises that production would increase, supply remains elusive, with diehard fans taking vacation time to press Add-to-Cart button all day with 43 browser tabs open. Switches widely available for Christmas 2026. Nintendo winks at Nvidia, slyly saying to Nvidia, "This is how it's done, chump! Watch and learn"
(Nvidia takes notes in order to perfect the release of their next generation cards.)
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I don't believe the Switch 2 is a high end x86 device sporting a 4090.
So I wouldn't get your hopes up for VR anything.
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My biggest frustration is the "everything has to be a handheld" form factor of the switch, along with the really high price. Makes it much more annoying to stick in an entertainment cabinet without damaging it, and also more fragile to transport vs something like a Wii or Wii-U.
I kinda wish they'd have come up with something like the Switch Lite but instead of being handheld-only was a plastic brick that plugged into a TV only.
I kinda wish they'd have come up with something like the Switch Lite but instead of being handheld-only was a plastic brick that plugged into a TV only.
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No, it's still labeled as "clap" function for those games as well.Same button could be used in adult games for something different.
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I don't think literally flawless backwards compatibility is achievable. But I'd imagine something like 99% compatibility, with most of the games with issues getting patched if their devs are still active. Nintendo has already said it should work with MOST Switch 1 games, which definitely sounds a like a "we can't test everything, so we are covering are asses" statement.
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Same wish here. For the longest time people said that they couldn't do that because of the name "Switch," then they went a release the Switch Lite, but can't switch anyway.
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Yep, which is why the Switch 2 name rumors seemed a bit questionable. Everything up till now has been some prefix or suffix unrelated to sequence a la Super Nintendo, Game Boy Advance, 3DS, or just a new name entirely like GameCube or Wii. Guessing some institutional paranoia after the Wii U debacle led them to the safest route here.
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Happy this turned out true. They didn't mention VRR in the Direct but it's on the website somewhere.
Does the $499 Mario Kart bundle count for this too?
Sooo some stuff is broken in some way, not many but there's two compatibility lists in the PDFs linked here:
https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/transfer-guide/compatible-games/
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So, just to circle back: The list / discussion seems pretty solid. $449 / $499 w/Mario Kart isn't even that bad when inflation is taken into account. $300 in 2017 = $394 in 2025.
I'm pleased.
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Oooh, I got my "possible"!! And connected to a profile with 50 gameplay hours, which is even better.
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oh well, it launched for - $449 - argh.
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I was expecting at least a teaser for a new 3D Mario game at the launch event. Still hope it's coming for Xmas 25.
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Not sure if it's been confirmed but the DK game looks/feels a lot like it might be by the 3D Mario team (...that coincidentally started out with DK Jungle Beat on GameCube way back). Guess now I'm pretty curious when the next Mario will be if that's the case, and by whom.
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macosandlinux
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Agreed, just seeing the graphics it reminded me of Mario Odyssey. Nintendo does have their unique visual style for sure with their IPs.
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