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  1. slutwolf

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    So if that's true , someone has to answer how it was steaming on the river.

    Why was that allowed.

    Why wasn't she tied up to a wharf ?

    Or , if she had to be moved , why didn't she have tug assistance ?

    Of course someone also needs to explain what that means also .

    How was it "unseaworthy"
     
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  3. slutwolf

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    Baltimore Says Owner of Ship That Hit Key Bridge Was Negligent
    The owner and manager of the cargo ship that downed the Francis Scott Key Bridge asked a judge to exonerate them from liability. The city argued otherwise.

    That seems a bit of a stretch on the owners part.
    They are "The Owners" how can they expect to avoid all responsibility/liability ,
    regardless of any others failures .

    It's not like she was just going a little way for some reason .

    She was destined for Colombo , Shri Lanka ,
    according to published information .

    That's near halfway around the world

    The owners are definitely responsible for that plan
     
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    I thought those type of ships were required to have independent back up systems in case of power failure.
     
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    When it happened, I read something about this same ship having had a similar incident overseas somewhere. My immediate thought was: poor maintenance. Never mind the ship isn’t that old.
     
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  6. slutwolf

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    Yeah I've been looking for the article which exposed her history .

    She had a history of electrical problems and failures,
    and
    Yes she hit a wall somewhere else previously.

    There were also serious questions about the quality and capabilities of her crew ,
    and of their attention to duties and maintenance etc
    Or , lack thereof
     
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  8. tenguy

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    Hmm, what an amazing revelation. A ship that loses all power and is unresponsive to helm commands is “unseaworthy “.

    This is like saying a dead man is unresponsive.
     
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      Well that's pretty obvious ,
      but not relative .
      The question is was why was it allowed to sail ,
      if it was unseaworty at the time ,
      or ,
      did it become unseaworty after departure
       
      slutwolf, Apr 24, 2024
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      Which is why the accident is being investigated, most people take “news” accounts with a degree of skepticism.
       
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    It was known from day one that the ship was drifting without power at the time of collision. Why did no one order them to anchor until help could arrive? Anchoring was not the optimal solution but it could have saved lives and damages.
     
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      That is all wonderful if not for one massive pesky fact, the crew of the ship, the port authority, and the ships owners all were aware that even an hour before setting off the vessel was having power supply issues already. I am not a sailor but even I know that you don't leave safety when your ride is about to give up the fucking ghost. If they had simply stayed at their dock and fixed what was wrong those people would still be alive today, if the port authority had ordered them to remain moored they would have to violate laws to leave, and either way being on anchor from the start would have been the optimal solution. All of this was known from day one, it was all reported even in the middle of nowhere south Texas which is why I still say iIF THEY HAD ANCHORED PEOPLE WOULD NOT HAVE DIED.
       
      Question_Everthing, Apr 25, 2024
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      Ok , at last , if that's all true , I have some of an answer.
      It was known that she was having those problems before she set sail .
      That would mean the port , or river authority , whichever ,
      would share at least some blame .

      Really , a number of people , from the owners and the master ,
      to whatever authorities had any jurisdiction in the area should have either stopped her sailing , or insisted she only travel with a tug.
       
      slutwolf, Apr 25, 2024
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      The company that owns the vessel made it public that the electrical issues were reported to the river authority as well as to the company, they shared that in an attempt to spread the blame for continuing to sail an unsafe ship to begin with. This was not the first time that this ship had this same issue, it had already had another incident ywS blamed on power issues as well. The company that owns the vessel and the management firm have filled under an 1851 law to limit responsibility and cap their costs while placing a large part of the onus on the port control for allowing the vessel to leave its mooring. Mersksealand had contracted the ship and has so far remained silent that I have found.
       
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  11. slutwolf

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    Who is the authority on the river ?

    Is it the same authority in both Baltimore and at the point of departure ?

    If it's all one authority ,
    does Baltimore have to sue its own authority to establish culpability ?

    I can imagine lawyers are going to have a field day with this .

    Out of interest,
    Where is the ship now ?
     
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      The US Coast Guard is the authority on all US navigable waters.
       
      tenguy, Apr 24, 2024
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  12. slutwolf

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    Interesting ,
    I see there is 15 miles of tidal region there ,
    of its 35 mile mainstream
    so
    Was the tide flowing in or out ?
     
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    [QUOTE="Question_Everthing, post: 15229600, member: 1941077"

    Why did no one order them to anchor until help could arrive? Anchoring was not the optimal solution but it could have saved lives and damages.[/QUOTE]

    Not nescassarilly.

    In the event , had the anchor grabbed and held in time ,
    the ship would almost certainly have "swung on her anchor" ,
    and would have swung to starboard
    (the left) ,
    [because in the event , the master had ordered the port anchor dropped and put the helm to port , in an attempt to turn her away from the bridge pier. about the best he could do]

    meaning ,
    she would have swung into the bridge ,
    quite likely with even more force ,
    ending up broadside on , across the pier ,
    in the river flow ,
    hitting it with who knows how much more force .
     
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  14. Justlikethat

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    I recall hearing something about a gas main that runs through that area of the channel so dropping the anchor and dragging it across the bottom isn’t a very good option either. I wonder if the anchor windlass even works?
     
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  16. latecomer91364

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    With a ship named 'Dali' who knows what the captain was looking at?

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  17. slutwolf

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    There is of course one other major problem .
    Nobody wants a ship tied up not allowed to move in thier port .
    It becomes a huge problem , where to put it , what to do with it etc etc
    and what to do with the crew ,
    the fuel etc on board .
    the cargo

    ( if she's just a dunger, the owners are likely to just abandon it , having it registered under a "flag of convenience"
    and no realistic chance of being held to account)

    [just looked up , she's under the flag of Malta , but wait ,
    looking for where she is now , it says she's "currently under the flag of Singapore"


    so not surprisingly ,
    they really just want to see it gone ,
    while
    at the same time they should be preventing it from going to sea.

    So according to data a few minutes ago
    She is currently aground,
    doing O knots , LoL
    heading due North

    I see she draws just over 12 meters,
    so about 40 feet ,
    and handy little thing to have in your river

    copied;

    POSITION & VOYAGE DATA
    Colombo, Sri Lanka
    ETA: Apr 22, 11:30
    Predicted ETA -
    Distance / Time -
    Course / Speed 351.4° / 0.0 kn
    Current draught 12.2 m
    Navigation Status Aground
    Position received
    0 min ago
    IMO / MMSI 9697428 / 563004200
    Callsign 9V5283
    Flag Singapore
    Length / Beam 300 / 48 m
    Baltimore, USA, United States (USA)
    ATD: Mar 26, 05:04 UTC (31 days ago)

    also found;
    Jul 14, 2016) VIDEO: Mega container ship Dali collided with berth at Port of Antwerp
     
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