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  1. CS natureboy

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    This is long overdue... The PLO is little more than a Palestinian terrorist organization.

    Trump administration closing PLO mission in Washington

    The Trump administration announced Monday that it is closing the Palestinian Liberation Organization's mission in Washington, following attempts by the group to get an international court to prosecute Israel for alleged war crimes.



    The announcement marks the latest blow by the United States against the Palestinians amid a stalled Mideast peace process.

    “The United States will use any means necessary to protect our citizens and those of our allies from unjust prosecution by this illegitimate court,” National Security Adviser John Bolton plans to say during a Monday afternoon speech to the Federalist Society. “The United States will always stand with our friend and ally, Israel.”

    Bolton is addressing the PLO decision in that speech, saying “The Trump administration will not keep the office open when the Palestinians refuse to take steps to start direct and meaningful negotiations with Israel.”

    He plans to say: “The United States supports a direct and robust peace process, and we will not allow the ICC, or any other organization, to constrain Israel’s right to self-defense.”

    The White House has reportedly mulled shutting down of the PLO mission in Washington since last November, unless the Palestinian leadership enters serious peace talks with Israel.


    Bolton’s announcement on closing the mission adheres to a provision in U.S. law saying the PLO mission must close if the Palestinians try to get the ICC to prosecute Israelis for crimes against Palestinians.

    “While the Court welcomes the membership of the so-called State of Palestine, it has threatened Israel—a liberal, democratic nation—with investigation into its actions to defend citizens from terrorist attacks in the West Bank and Gaza,” Bolton plans to say. “There has also been a suggestion that the ICC will investigate Israeli construction of housing projects on the West Bank.”

    The U.S. does not currently recognize the Palestinian territories as an independent state, though the United Nations General Assembly overwhelmingly voted in 2012 to recognize Palestine as a "non-member observer state."

    Heather Nauert, a spokeswoman for the U.S. State Department, said on Monday that the announcement does not change the U.S. stance that direct negotiations are the way to forge a peace deal, but warned the PLO against any rash actions.

    “The United States continues to believe that direct negotiations between the two parties are the only way forward,” Nauert said in a statement. “This action should not be exploited by those who seek to act as spoilers to distract from the imperative of reaching a peace agreement. We are not retreating from our efforts to achieve a lasting and comprehensive peace.”

    Closing the PLO mission in Washington almost certainly will stiffen the Palestinians' opposition to any peace plan now being worked on by Trump's Middle East point men, Jared Kushner and Jason Greenblatt.

    The Palestinian leadership has been openly hostile to any proposal from the administration, citing what it says is a pro-Israel bias.

    Senior Palestinian diplomat Saeb Erekat said the U.S. decision was designed "to protect Israeli crimes" and added that the move would not stop Palestinian legal action against Israel.

    "We reiterate that the rights of the Palestinian people are not for sale, that we will not succumb to US threats and bullying," Erekat said in a statement. "Accordingly, we continue to call upon the International Criminal Court to open its immediate investigation into Israeli crimes."

    One issue the U.S. has had with the Palestinian Authority had been its stipends paid to the families of Palestinians killed, injured or jailed for attacks on Israel. Israel and the Trump administration have repeatedly demanded that those payments from a so-called "martyrs' fund" be halted because they encourage terrorism. PA President Mahmoud Abbas has refused to do so.

    The State Department announced earlier this month that the United States is ending its decades of funding for the U.N. agency that helps Palestinian refugees. A week earlier, the administration slashed bilateral U.S. aid for projects in the West Bank and Gaza.

    The U.S. supplies nearly 30 percent of the total budget of the U.N. Relief and Works Agency, or UNRWA, and had been demanding reforms in the way it is run. The department said in a written statement the U.S. "will no longer commit further funding to this irredeemably flawed operation." The decision cuts nearly $300 million of planned support.

    Besides Monday’s announcement and the previous withdrawal of aid, the Trump administration dealt another blow to the Palestinians back in May when the U.S. moved its embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to contested Jerusalem.

    On the day the embassy, opened Israel killed more than 60 Palestinians, including a 14-year-old girl, during protests that followed. It was the bloodiest day since a war between Hamas and Israel ended in 2014.

    Israel said it is defending its border and accuses Hamas, the Islamic militant group that rules Gaza, of trying to carry out attacks under the cover of the protests.
     
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  2. Hush

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    Well, that's petty and STUPID. Who'd a guessed Trump would be so ignorant?

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    Petty and stupid.
    Huh.
    Carry on.
     
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  4. Distant Lover

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    I am not one who claims that President Trump is a walking encyclopedia. Nevertheless, what is petty, STUPID, and ignorant about closing the mission of a terrorist organization?

    Why should we give any encouragement to the PLO at all? Why, for that matter should we give any encouragement to the Palestinians?
     
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    Because, that's a long time ago that they were that. The second "talk" ends, bullets are all that's left. Although, it does suit the Israeli agenda of taking over all of the area. It's what they have been after since day one, stealing the Palestinian's land. This might explain it better.

    Fuck Trump and fuck those genocidal Israelis as well. Because that is what they are. Funny how they became their persecutors.

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  6. Distant Lover

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    All of Israel and the occupied territories are less than one percent of Arab land. Let the Jews have it, and settle the Palestinians elsewhere in the Arab world.

    The Jews did not "steal" land. They conquered it in wars started by the Arabs in efforts to destroy Israel and kill all the Jews there.

    I doubt that many people in the West who take the side of the Palestinians against Israel would rather live in an Arab country than Israel.

    In Arab countries women are not allowed to be in public without the presence of their husbands or male relatives. One time I read about a woman in Saudi Arabia who was gang raped. She was sentenced to receive 400 lashes.

    Arab boys who are supposed to be protecting their sisters sometimes rape them, and kill them publicly if they get pregnant.

    Many Muslims think that Muslims who convert to another religion should be executed.

    A gay rights demonstration in an Arab country is unthinkable. Before the police arrived to arrest the demonstrators they would have been murdered by a raving mob of Arabs.

    Everything the secular left loathes about Christian conservatives and the religious right is far more true of Arab Muslims.

    Arabs are not that way because of Western imperialism. They have always been that way.
     
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  7. Hush

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    Fuck that! Why should a people give up their land just because the Israelis will kill them otherwise. Israel is GUILTY of more human rights violations and land grabs than Red China. If we had a government who stood up for what our nation preaches, we would have glassed over Israel long ago. Frankly, the Israelis need to get the hell out of Palestinian lands, and stick to what they were GENEROUSLY given.

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  8. Distant Lover

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    The land no longer belongs to the Palestinians.

    Before the Jews returned to the land of their ancestors Palestine was another third world dump, just like the rest of the Arab world. The Jews created an advanced civilization where barbarism had prevailed.
     
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    STOLEN by the Israelis... Be clear on that. Stolen, as in thieves, invaders, genocidal monsters who mimic the Nazi belief of "one of us or be dead."

    By your definition, the Jews in Germany, Russia and so on, did not have their homes and lands stolen, it just simply no longer belonged to them. So which is it, your way, or my way? It's the same for each.

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  10. CS natureboy

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    You do realize the Jews have inhabited the Middle East and what is now known as modern day Israel for over 5 thousand years...
     
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      You do realize that being Jewish is a religion, not a nation, yes? Palestine/Israel as it was:

      *not_secure_link*www.ourfarm.org/webs/pytw/maps/0001BC_ME.gif

      Contained MANY religions, many cultures and races, all in the same area... The British who ruled over Palestine in the late 40's ended up handing over a small portion to them. https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/creation-Israel SInce that time they have been gobbling up chunks of it, annexing other peoples/nations lands. The Palestinians.

      *not_secure_link*www.palestineportal.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Maps_1897-Present.jpg

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      You do realize "Palestine" has never been a country.... It is an ancient description of a Middle East region and it makes no reference to the religion or ethnic make up of the population.
       
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      Where did I say "country?" When you read, it is important to not interject what 'you imagine' into what I wrote. That said, the State of Palestine, which is recognized by the U.N., does indeed have a President, and government, and if you even had half an inkling of what you were talking about, you would know that the PLO is no longer a combatant force, yet Palestine's representative arm regarding embassies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine

      Educate yourself first before trying to talk about adult topics.

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    Did the Jews get their homes and land back after the war?
     
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      Yes, they could petition for both (to what degree of success I can't say)... However, most simply wanted out of war ravaged Europe. So as some moved elsewhere, others ultimately emigrated to the new nation of Israel. This is basic history... you remember, that stuff you were supposed to learn when you went to school? I never went to school, so how is it I know this shit and you don't?

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  12. Distant Lover

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    By trying to exterminate the most superior race in existence the Nazis slowed the process of human evolution.
     
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      You have this REALLY weird fetish for some fictional Jewish race... You do realize it's really creepy, right?

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    The Palestinians supported our enemies during the Second World War, the Cold War, and the War in the Gulf. They celebrated when 9/11 happened.
     
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      Please... They were of zero consequence in WWII, and a few radicals glad that the all powerful America, that has helped their people be decimated by the Israelis for 50-years, was attacked does not mean that all of Palestine celebrated the attacks. That's just stupid.

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    And closeted Osama Bin Laden for a couple of years at least.
     
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      You mean as in EVERY Palestinian citizen? Or a few radicals... Please, these arguments are beyond ridiculous.

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  15. Distant Lover

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    You have this REALLY weird fetish for some fictional Jewish race... You do realize it's really creepy, right?

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    - Hush

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    A race is a group of people with common ancestry. Members of a race can be determined by DNA analysis. With their average IQ of 115 the Ashkenazi Jews are the most superior race in existence.

    The Israelis have created the only civilized country in the Mid East. They have done what was necessary in order to survive and prosper against the aggression of sub human barbarians. They will continue to do what is necessary. As long as there are plenty of Americans who agree with me, they will continue to do it with American financial and military support.

    Throughout human evolution superior races have displaced inferior races. The process has contributed to the progress of human evolution. It is the reason Europe is no longer inhabited by Neanderthals. It is also the reason European civilization has become the most advanced and humane civilization in world history.

    (The Orientals are catching up fast. They benefit by disbelieving all that nonsense about innate racial equality.)

    It has only been since the Second World War that people who should better have been beguiled by the fashionable delusion that racial differences do not exist, do not matter, or that "Race is only a social construct."
     
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  16. Hush

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    Oh brother...

    Get the fucking murdering, genocidal, land thieving, Jews out of Palestinian lands. They make 99% of their own problems! Trump is simply a cowardly traitorous fuck who does not abide by the ideals of the United States... His hope in doing this is that he can turn his back as the Israelis continue with their "Final Solution" regarding the Palestinians, to finally wipe or drive them out... We should be starving the fucking neo-Nazi Israelis out with sanctions until they either learn to live in peace, or cram themselves back into their original lands where they can wall themselves up for as long as they want.

    It is that simple.

    *not_secure_link*caravandaily.com/portal/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/israel-fascist-state.gif

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  17. Distant Lover

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    As I expected, hysteria is your only response to my reasoned defense of Israel. :cool:

    I want sanctions against the Palestinians so that they are forced to leave in order to create living space for God's Chosen People.
     
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      Uh huh... Truth is not hysteria. Your creepy little fetish however is weird.

      Hush....an alias
       
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      Weirdness is in the eyes of the beholder.

      There must be a Jewish land for a Jewish people. It sounds better in German, but you get the idea.
       
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      Perhaps, why I made sure that their actions were clearly represented in that modified flag. Their teachers obvious.

      More the shame of it.

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  18. Distant Lover

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    Exodus 3:8 And I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land unto a good land and a large, unto a land flowing with milk and honey; unto the place of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites.

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    The acquisition of new land and soil for the settling of the superfluous population has no end of advantages.

    - Adolf Hitler, from Mein Kampf, Volume I, Chapter IV, "Munich"
     
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  19. Hush

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    Thank you for proving all of my points... Fucking creepy, I tell ya.

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  20. Distant Lover

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    You really are getting emotional, aren't you? :cool1:
     
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